Stop the problem at the source
I do not often find myself agreeing with ACT party policies but in this last couple of years I find myself agreeing with a couple of these, and while radical I think it seriously needs to be looked at...because it could solve a lot of problems.
The latest is around ACT MP David Garrett and his comments or statements around abusive parents being paid to be steralised. I would rather their steralisations be paid for rather than pay them to get it done but I tend to agree with this.
Child abuse and neglect is rampant in this country and its the parents of the kids who are not taking enough responsibility, living their own lives rather than focusing on the kids they brought into this world. Spending more money on booze than books, smokes than shoes, eating out more than education.
On the Stuff.co.nz website article there are comments about genocide and Nazism, and what I see as an unfortunate truth, many found in this situation will be Maori or Polynesian. I also have to think that to some degree this is about population control because it would control the amount of our child population that are abused and neglected.
But I do not agree with the assertion that this is to control the Maori or Polynesian population at all. While they may be fewer of them, European people will be caught up in the mix. My family can testify of that and I have seen it over the years in European descent families as much as I have of other ethnic groups.
I honestly do not have a problem with the idea, its how you would determine the criteria for this would be. Severe abuse? I do not think you can put a measure on this kind of thing. Personally, if you aren't feeding, clothing or teaching your child then that could be abuse. Does it have to get to the Nia Glassie level to be defined as enough to warrant offering this kind of intervention?
The problem lies more in how to stop the perpetuation of the cycle of abuse. Therein lies a less radical solution, but it takes more time...and runs more risks. I have a very dear friend right now who is in a situation...which is not entirely his doing. As a direct result of his nurture he has no idea how to relate to his two kids, or his partner in a civil way. He has no good example to draw on how to be a good father or partner and there is a degree of neglect there, though not severe.
Her family are a bunch of morons...more than your normal family funny farm, but a bunch of people who have less than a clue themselves and have nothing positive to offer their daughter and sister. General examples. Mum is dating and living with a P-Addict, in love with someone in prison for murder and can't leave the druggy until the murderer leaves prison. Their idea of support is saying choose us over your partner.
Neither him nor his partner have the tools or the close level support network to help them with their children, their issues or to help them become better parents. Friends can only do so much and while his mum is good intentioned, still has ghosts from past disasters of her own. I wouldn't consider these people as a case for the extreme measure of cutting the child making capabilities but certainly a need for intervention.
Listening to this mornings Breakfast interview with Annabel Taylor from Family Help Trust was in my view trying to protect her own job and funding pool. Certainly there is effective interventions and people can change...but Paul Henry did ask a very good and direct question. "How many children have to be abused and in many cases killed before they change? Regardless the reasons why it happens, how many cases of the Kahui twins or Nia Glassie, other children who die as a result of abuse, neglect or other forms of non-violent abuse is it going to take before we try and stop figuring out why and deal with it.
I've long been passionate about being brought up in a home surrounded by a family who love and care for the child they bring into the world. If they cannot, then they give that child up for adoption so it can be loved and be given opportunities that it otherwise would never have gotten. I remember years ago, being assigned to escort a social worker into a home where smoke billowed out when the door opened. The house had been sealed by those inside who were smoking dope and drinking. Inside the house was an infant who was already asphyxiated, another who was not asleep but unconscious, and at least two toddlers who were showing signs of alcohol and drugs in their systems. I was 17.
On the other side of things I have seen families who have at one point or another, had their kids taken from them for intervention purposes, made the necessary changes in their lives and their children were returned so I have seen both extremes.
In an immediate and intimate situation a birth mother we know has lost all four of her children here, age ranges from 9 to 3 because she neglected them all at one stage. When the youngest was 6 months or so breakfast if she was lucky was coke and bread. Until she was 2, she got very little attention what so ever. There is a rumour there were four other kids in Australia who were taken off her and are now in better care situations.
This measure may be extreme and I more than understand that. When you compare the cost of steralisation of problem parents, parents who cannot change, who bring children again and again into abusive situations, to the cost of cleaning up the mess..there is more to be gained than lost.
What about the cost of a child's life against the possibility of change? Is it too much to hope that an abusive and neglectful set of parents (both mother and father) will change their stripes, and in the mean time, not kill or abuse any more of their kids. How much money does the government have to spend on intervening again and again for abusive families to make changes.
Anyway...enough said at this point.
The latest is around ACT MP David Garrett and his comments or statements around abusive parents being paid to be steralised. I would rather their steralisations be paid for rather than pay them to get it done but I tend to agree with this.
Child abuse and neglect is rampant in this country and its the parents of the kids who are not taking enough responsibility, living their own lives rather than focusing on the kids they brought into this world. Spending more money on booze than books, smokes than shoes, eating out more than education.
On the Stuff.co.nz website article there are comments about genocide and Nazism, and what I see as an unfortunate truth, many found in this situation will be Maori or Polynesian. I also have to think that to some degree this is about population control because it would control the amount of our child population that are abused and neglected.
But I do not agree with the assertion that this is to control the Maori or Polynesian population at all. While they may be fewer of them, European people will be caught up in the mix. My family can testify of that and I have seen it over the years in European descent families as much as I have of other ethnic groups.
I honestly do not have a problem with the idea, its how you would determine the criteria for this would be. Severe abuse? I do not think you can put a measure on this kind of thing. Personally, if you aren't feeding, clothing or teaching your child then that could be abuse. Does it have to get to the Nia Glassie level to be defined as enough to warrant offering this kind of intervention?
The problem lies more in how to stop the perpetuation of the cycle of abuse. Therein lies a less radical solution, but it takes more time...and runs more risks. I have a very dear friend right now who is in a situation...which is not entirely his doing. As a direct result of his nurture he has no idea how to relate to his two kids, or his partner in a civil way. He has no good example to draw on how to be a good father or partner and there is a degree of neglect there, though not severe.
Her family are a bunch of morons...more than your normal family funny farm, but a bunch of people who have less than a clue themselves and have nothing positive to offer their daughter and sister. General examples. Mum is dating and living with a P-Addict, in love with someone in prison for murder and can't leave the druggy until the murderer leaves prison. Their idea of support is saying choose us over your partner.
Neither him nor his partner have the tools or the close level support network to help them with their children, their issues or to help them become better parents. Friends can only do so much and while his mum is good intentioned, still has ghosts from past disasters of her own. I wouldn't consider these people as a case for the extreme measure of cutting the child making capabilities but certainly a need for intervention.
Listening to this mornings Breakfast interview with Annabel Taylor from Family Help Trust was in my view trying to protect her own job and funding pool. Certainly there is effective interventions and people can change...but Paul Henry did ask a very good and direct question. "How many children have to be abused and in many cases killed before they change? Regardless the reasons why it happens, how many cases of the Kahui twins or Nia Glassie, other children who die as a result of abuse, neglect or other forms of non-violent abuse is it going to take before we try and stop figuring out why and deal with it.
I've long been passionate about being brought up in a home surrounded by a family who love and care for the child they bring into the world. If they cannot, then they give that child up for adoption so it can be loved and be given opportunities that it otherwise would never have gotten. I remember years ago, being assigned to escort a social worker into a home where smoke billowed out when the door opened. The house had been sealed by those inside who were smoking dope and drinking. Inside the house was an infant who was already asphyxiated, another who was not asleep but unconscious, and at least two toddlers who were showing signs of alcohol and drugs in their systems. I was 17.
On the other side of things I have seen families who have at one point or another, had their kids taken from them for intervention purposes, made the necessary changes in their lives and their children were returned so I have seen both extremes.
In an immediate and intimate situation a birth mother we know has lost all four of her children here, age ranges from 9 to 3 because she neglected them all at one stage. When the youngest was 6 months or so breakfast if she was lucky was coke and bread. Until she was 2, she got very little attention what so ever. There is a rumour there were four other kids in Australia who were taken off her and are now in better care situations.
This measure may be extreme and I more than understand that. When you compare the cost of steralisation of problem parents, parents who cannot change, who bring children again and again into abusive situations, to the cost of cleaning up the mess..there is more to be gained than lost.
What about the cost of a child's life against the possibility of change? Is it too much to hope that an abusive and neglectful set of parents (both mother and father) will change their stripes, and in the mean time, not kill or abuse any more of their kids. How much money does the government have to spend on intervening again and again for abusive families to make changes.
Anyway...enough said at this point.
Labels: ACT Party, child abuse, Steralisation

